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Arsenal, Wenger, Draxler and Player Valuations

by SimonSEEZ

Another window has come and gone and I have never been a big fan of deadline day as usually I just ignore everything that happens during the period but writing a football blog sometimes forces you to be in the know of some things and just reading tweets gives you a pulse of what a general opinion on an issue is.

The Arsenal timeline was on fire, tweets were flying in with most castigating the club on the Draxler miss and on signing Kim Kallstrom due to his age and subsequent injury. Various opinions were formed and to be fair everyone is very well entitled to theirs and writing a blog doesn’t mean your opinion is any superior.

I think supporting Arsenal for a long time should have schooled us on how the club conducts its business and hence shape your expectations. At the start of the window, as much as I felt we needed a signing I didn’t think we would make one however the injury to Theo Walcott tilted my opinion towards the manager making a signing to help cushion the loss of goals that come from Theo but even then I had my reservations.

Most felt that player would be Draxler as the media had built the deal so much it seemed a certainty but for price negotiations as he was priced around the 37m pounds. Did Arsenal put in a bid? When is a bid actually put in? Does making an inquiry and haggling about figures actually equate making a bid? Deals like this tend to indicate that having too much information at our finger tips doesn’t necessary make what we read true but it would be a lie if we say we haven’t found a sequence with all these events. We were on with Higuain for so long during the last window only for Florentino Perez to say the same thing; Arsenal didn’t put in a bid.

Most deals that end like this always end up been as a result of how Wenger evaluates the financial aspect of the deal. Is the player worth the amount being requested by the selling club? How much does a player really worth? Is Neymar really worth the official and unofficial amounts he was purchased for? Gareth Bale? MesutOzil? Players worth are usually determined by a whole lot of factors aside from the most obvious which is Talent then age, when you are buying the player summer or winter, if the selling club has time to find a replacement, how much the selling club perceives the buying club really needs the player, agents involved, relationship between both clubs and a host of others. So if you are going for a player at the beginning of a transfer window when the selling club has all the time to find and sign a replacement we don’t expect that the player would cost the same when you go at the end of a window especially at the end of a winter window which is when we have made a habit of.

Wenger only signs exceptional players, at least that is what he tells us and he has an eye for spotting young talent but he wouldn’t pay over the odds for them. Hazard for instance was heavily linked with us and we botched the deal, Chelsea went on to sign him for 32million pounds an amount we most likely couldn’t afford to invest in a young player then, could we be passing on another opportunity to sign one of the brightest talents in Europe yet again? He fits all the bill for being expensive, he is young, he has a resale value, we are buying him in January, the whole world knows we need a striker why did we think we could get him for anything cheaper than what the club had earlier quoted as his buyout clause in the first place. Right now Hazard is worth more than the 32m that was paid for him and the Hazard deal doesn’t look like much of a risk anymore.

Sometimes a players real worth cannot only be measured directly, the effect of certain players transcend money. Money is tangible you can count it, how about the lift it gives the fans, the lift a signing might give other players, a clubs brand can be completely changed by a major signing. Ozil cost us 42million, but can you place an amount on his effect on everyone in and around the club? For the first time in long time we felt like a buying club again. In financial terms how many people were more willing to renew their season tickets on the back of that decision to buy Ozil.

I don’t think Draxler is worth 37million but should we have paid that amount for him I wouldn’t have been pissed either because of what it does for our brand. It shows we can pay top dollar for talent; he is young so it also shows that we are long term with our desire to succeed. I hear Bayern are going in for him, should a battle to sign him start after the World Cup we can kiss him goodbye because then it might come to wages and that’s a battle we won’t ever win. Should they get him they will have Lewandoski (25), Gotze (21), Muller (24) and Draxler (20). A group of players coming into their prime all playing together is certain to secure any clubs future.

Arsenal is a big club and we as a club are valued very highly on lists of profitable sporting ventures and biggest brands in football. When we do deals with other clubs in the same bracket with us we do deals with a view to extracting maximum value from our sales. How is that we expect that other clubs wont demand just as much from us too. Nasri, Adebayour, Toure and RVP were amazing deals on paper and we posted profits all those windows but how much did it cost us in intangible assets, how much did those sales hurt our brand, it doesn’t look really bad for now as Gazidis and his team seem to be doing amazing things with the clubs marketing department but imagine if we kept our best players, won a few trophies in the last few seasons and Gazidis can walk into a negotiation telling the would be sponsor you are dealing with the Premiership champions you might want to consider increasing your valuation.

There is a term in Project Management called ‘bench marking’ and when you benchmark you try to compare whatever project you are undertaking with a similar project a competitor has done or is doing. The competitor can be internal or external in whatever case study but take a football club for instance, are we not meant to be bench marking ourselves with our competitors? Compare your players with players of our direct rivals and see how you can remain competitive. Our current squad is amazing and I sincerely believe we are not far off from the quality we need to win the league and we just need a quality option to play with Giroud or alternate with Giroud. So what is the value that players go for in that bracket? Do we intend to keep paying what Arsene thinks the player is worth or what the market thinks the player is worth? These are questions we must ask ourselves going into future transfer windows as we might not be able to compete against clubs sponsored by countries like PSG, Man City and Monaco but next time we get heads up on a player in the Draxler mode we must take quick advantage and seal the deal before the big hawks come hunting.

Hope you have a great night or day dependent on when you read this. Cheers!!

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Yeezi February 5, 2014 - 8:34 am

Julian Draxler has come out to say Arsenal met his valuation, but Shalke blocked the deal for reasons unbeknownst to us. I think u’re misinformed on this story (Anything to nail Arsene). And Arsene has the final say on players worth, and he knows his stuff more than you and i. Cos the market is crazy doesn’t mean sane people shouldn’t act sane.

SimonSEEZ February 5, 2014 - 8:49 am

Did he? Did we meet his valuation? Nice for a change that I have been accused of slamming the manager. 🙂 more often than not I am called a wenger apologist.

Did we meet his valuation? Shalke said we didn’t put in a bid. Wenger said the whole deal was made up by the media. Who do we believe. Wenger is an excellent manager and the I don’t think I can be better at his job than him but we are very well entitled to have opinions right? I understand the market and in my last paragraph I also admitted its impossible for us to compete, all I would like is that we shouldn’t be missing out on opportunities because we over analyse a transfer

Dozie February 5, 2014 - 4:12 pm

Draxler for me is a huge gamble and wouldn’t have changed our seasons outcome he’s injured till march and not a striker yet… 37m for player who was best behind kevin DE bruyne last season in bundelsliga seems a huge gamble..,. I think The Draxler saga was more of crave for signing than actually solving the immediate problem of getting a better striker than OG…

SimonSEEZ February 5, 2014 - 5:04 pm

Like I said, I feel 37 was high too, but I would also understand if we paid that amount. Same way most of us felt the price for Hazard was high too. The article wasn’t about Draxler alone, he was really just a case in point. How we conduct our business and value players is what I tried to highlight on

Frost February 6, 2014 - 7:07 am

I will like to go on record to say that paying 37M would have been well over the odds for a 20 year old Draxler no matter how good he may be or even turn out. What are the antecedents @ Arsenal these days? Sign a young player and they move on when they really are getting mature? We should be looking at competing for 24-27 year olds who have cut it and know what they want. Not a player who will suddenly remember his dream was always to play for Barca/Real etc at 24 after having been nurtured at THOF.
We can’t continue to buy young talented players especially when they cost so much regardless of what sell on value they may possess.
As the saying goes, Arsene knows and most times, we don’t have the full stories other that media made up stuff so, am looking well beyond Draxler when it comes to strengthening the squad in the summer.

SimonSEEZ February 6, 2014 - 8:37 am

Hi Frost, even if he turns out good? You don’t think the investment in Hazard is reaping results? I also feel 37m is a lot but wouldn’t lose sleep if we did because sometime we might need to take risks to be successful.

Are we assuming that the clubs you listed will still be bigger than us in 5 years? I hope they won’t. City were no where close to us 5 years ago see them now, they are not bigger than us but at least we pay attention to them now. Arsene sure knows and like you I hope he does a better job with the summer especially as it’s a world cup year

Frost February 6, 2014 - 4:09 pm

I sort of agree with you on taking risks to be successful. But given options in the winter window without bedding in time, I may not have considered Draxler (20 years old remember) a risk worth taking for the immediate needs of the team. Hazard has turned out a very good investment and it’s working quite well for him and his club at the moment. What I however mean with taking such risks with young players is that these days, you hardly find players who will play 10 years with one club and some may not settle till well after the second year. They suddenly begin to interest clubs which may not necessarily be bigger but may have a history that players want to be a part of (rightly or wrongly). Take özil for example, paying 42M quid for him at 25 may not be seen as much of a risk because he isn’t a young player as such but it is money for a player who is presumably at the height of his powers (24-29 most times). That age bracket is what I will desire AW to target in terms of quality additions as we need to be competing right away and not nurturing the next Na$ri’s, RvP’s, Cesc’s etc.
I have been hurt by the departure of the young players we so hoped will be the next big things at THOF that I honestly don’t want to see any 20 year olds in AFC let alone those coming with big price tags on them.
Am hopeful AW will get it right come the summer window. He just has to doesn’t he?

ogungbade joshua February 7, 2014 - 2:55 pm

some valid strong points about bench-marking and the need for investing in a strong potential future, grooming or buying them at a price a little too high, (thats what we’ve been about for years), wish wenger visits once in a while.

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